Totalitarian secularists? Really?!

Telegraph: Britain being overtaken by ‘militant secularists’, says Baroness Warsi
British society is under threat from the rising tide of “militant secularisation” reminiscent of “totalitarian regimes”, a Cabinet minister will warn on Tuesday.

No.

These so-called militant secularists merely wish to remove all religious influence from official public life. This is a principle which seems to work reasonably well in other countries, such as the United States of America and France—neither of which, as far as I can see, are reminiscent of totalitarian regimes. Secularism is all about equality.

Secularists do not want to ban religion. What people get up to in their own private lives is up to them. Secularists merely think that it is wrong for the state to treat somebody specially on account of their religion—or absence of religion. For example, in Britain we allow children to be segregated into different state-funded schools on account of the professed faith of their parents. Secularists think this is wrong. Were children so segregated on account of the colour of their skin, it would rightly be called apartheid.

A totalitarian regime, on the other hand, to quote Wikipedia, recogni[s]es no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible (my emphasis added). Totalitarian regimes—like many religions—try to control what you get up to in private.

A totalitarian secularist regime is a contradiction in terms.

What in non-existant God’s holy name is ‘atheistic fundamentalism’?

BBC: ‘Atheistic fundamentalism’ fears

The Archbishop of Wales, Dr Barry Morgan, has described a rise in “fundamentalism” as one of the great problems facing the world.

He focused on what he described as “atheistic fundamentalism”.

It seems to me you’re either an atheist or you’re not. It’s not the sort of thing you can be by degrees. Atheists don’t tend to get into arguments with each other about which gods they don’t believe in, or about how their unbelief is better than anyone else’s. There is only one rule as far as atheists are concerned: there are no gods. I suppose that’s pretty fundamental, but I don’t think it’s quite what the archbishop has in mind.

The word fundamentalism usually means opposition to liberalism and secularism, and insisting in the unerring accuracy of scripture. That seems a very strange adjective to apply to atheism. We’re in serious oxymoron territory here—with the emphasis on the moron.

However, the Archbishop of Wales is reported as saying that atheistic fundamentalism:

[advocates] that religion in general and Christianity in particular have no substance, and that some [atheists] view the faith as “superstitious nonsense”.

Erm… Well… Yes and no.

Unless I’m very much mistaken, all atheists would advocate that religions in general—but not Christianity in particular—have no substance (if, by substance, we mean real, actual deities backing them up). And all atheists would, almost by definition, view any religious faith—not just Christian—as “superstitious nonsense”.

It seems that, when the archbishop uses the phrase atheistic fundamentalism, what he actually means is atheism. But cop a load of these examples he cites of atheistic fundamentalism:

situations such as councils calling Christmas “Winterval”, schools refusing to put on nativity plays and crosses removed from chapels

Those aren’t examples of atheism (fundamental or otherwise); those are examples of urban mythical political correctness.

The archbishop is clearly a very confused and paranoid man.


See also: Motes and Planks

Motes and Planks

BBC: Archbishop attacks public atheism

The Archbishop of York has condemned what he called the systematic erosion of Christianity from public life.

Dr John Sentamu told lay readers illiberal atheists were undermining Britain’s religious heritage.

In exactly the same way, presumably, that the arrival of St Augustine on the Isle of Thanet, the Synod of Whitby, the Protestant Reformation, heliocentrism, Catholic Emancipation, the Theory of Evolution by means of Natural Selection, the legalisation of homosexuality and the enthronement of the first black archbishop all undermined our religious heritage.

Sometimes change can be for the better, archbishop.

The day your practising-gay successor is enthroned by a female Archbishop of Canterbury will be the day, perhaps, on which we should start discussing the issue of illiberal atheists.

See also: AC Grayling: Gotta have faith? (Guardian)